tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14307486.post114081318550822152..comments2024-03-28T11:24:13.222+00:00Comments on theatre of noise: Rarest New Order Songrobinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08743788064455642852noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14307486.post-90933008964743636832017-11-03T03:42:00.068+00:002017-11-03T03:42:00.068+00:00So am I correct in stating that Cries & Whispe...So am I correct in stating that Cries & Whispers appears only once on vinyl -- on the B-side of Everything's Gone Green? it looks like that was reissued as late as 1987 (though I wonder how anyone really knows that).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14307486.post-29819418405036018992017-06-23T21:54:12.445+01:002017-06-23T21:54:12.445+01:00A late afternoon browsing New Order minutiae. Than...A late afternoon browsing New Order minutiae. Thanks. Knew about Mesh/C&W but NOT about the artwork for the Canadian compilation or even that it WAS Canadian.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16987042358392971019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14307486.post-37707968146313193222011-12-20T19:08:38.028+00:002011-12-20T19:08:38.028+00:00The error took until 1989 to fix... but then only ...The error took until 1989 to fix... but then only in Canada! Terribly odd, I agree.robinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08743788064455642852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14307486.post-58531352442660397312011-12-20T17:09:38.346+00:002011-12-20T17:09:38.346+00:00This is all very interesting, but when a song has ...This is all very interesting, but when a song has been sold with the supposedly wrong name for so many years, for even serious fans like myself that becomes the song title. For the band to come out after all these years to try to set the record straight only produces further confusion (even in 2008 when this was discussed). Substance CD 2 says track 3 is Mesh. Even the EGG EP lists the same track as Mesh. Too many years went by without this being corrected.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14307486.post-6690561449589342322008-10-10T13:50:00.000+01:002008-10-10T13:50:00.000+01:00they're misnamed in the UK:http://www.amazon.c...they're misnamed in the UK:<BR/>http://www.amazon.co.uk/Movement-Collectors-Remastered-New-Order/dp/B001EMPUGM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1223642856&sr=8-1<BR/><BR/>but correctly in Germany:<BR/>http://www.amazon.de/Movement-CollectorS-New-Order/dp/B001EMPUGM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1223642880&sr=8-1Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14307486.post-77691509657296308112008-10-09T23:27:00.000+01:002008-10-09T23:27:00.000+01:00Looks like they butchered this re-issue, with poor...Looks like they butchered this re-issue, with poor quality booklets, art errors and a truly bizarre attempt at bonus tracks. The version of "Temptation" sequenced between "Ceremony" and "In a Lonely Place" is the remix from 1987! Holy idiocy!<BR/><BR/>And, though both are present, it looks like they misnamed "Mesh" and "Cries and Whispers"... again. Argh!!robinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08743788064455642852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14307486.post-25351302762607676712008-10-09T21:08:00.000+01:002008-10-09T21:08:00.000+01:00now they're both, Cries And Whispers and Mesh, tog...now they're both, Cries And Whispers and Mesh, together on 1 CD. Movement 2008 Collector's Edition bonus disc:<BR/><BR/>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movement_(album)<BR/><BR/>although Stephen Morris correctly said in the retro booklet, that on Substance the song Cries And Whispers is misspelled as Mesh, he also said there incorrectly, that no song entitled Mesh existsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14307486.post-52244886504854966572008-10-07T04:32:00.000+01:002008-10-07T04:32:00.000+01:00One other place I have found the New Order song, M...One other place I have found the New Order song, Mesh, again incorrectly labelled as Chries and Whispers, is on the compilation, Back to School.<BR/><BR/>http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001HAIATA/ref=dm_sp_alb?ie=UTF8&qid=1223349783&sr=8-2Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01995268560701359039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14307486.post-46338136038662279502008-09-29T21:09:00.000+01:002008-09-29T21:09:00.000+01:00Hey Ross! Long time no contact!! Hope you have fun...Hey Ross! Long time no contact!! Hope you have fun reading around here and my other sites. Yes, I think my Indian genetics have helped with the old aging process. ;-)robinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08743788064455642852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14307486.post-91486695541041516652008-09-29T14:24:00.000+01:002008-09-29T14:24:00.000+01:00hey Robin, very interesting article... of course n...hey Robin, very interesting article... of course now I have to dig around in the back room of my basement to see if the "Everything's Gone Green" disc that I bought back in 1981 (might have been 82) matches up with this one. And on another note, its been really interesting browsing around your site and reading your blog entries. I might throw a comment or two in other locations also.<BR/><BR/>p.s. one of the pictures of you could have been taken back in grade 13... you have aged well!Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09389186147142739810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14307486.post-1684897417953941302007-06-08T12:24:00.000+01:002007-06-08T12:24:00.000+01:00Thanks moffetcat for that information!Thanks moffetcat for that information!robinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08743788064455642852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14307486.post-71067946496845838732007-06-08T06:27:00.000+01:002007-06-08T06:27:00.000+01:00I stumbled upon your entry as I was searching to s...I stumbled upon your entry as I was searching to see if anyone realized that Cries and Whispers had an entirely different set of lyrics - and many of them - when sung on New Order's first tour of the US in late 1980. I have a bootleg of their performance in Boston at the Underground on 30 SEPT 1980. It sounds as if Peter Hook is singing here as well. There are many short bursts of lyrics with the same instrumental backing you'll find on the EP version. It sounds like one of the lyrics is "inside the line" or "the final...something" It's hard to understand. It's extremely interesting and I wish I had the chance to ask Peter about it when I met him at Dry in Manchester in 1990, but I hadn't heard this recording until I recieved a tape copy in 1995. Homage is another rare track that was also performed at this gig in Boston and a handful of other gigs during 1980. It also appears on a badly recorded studio demo reported to have been recorded at the Western Works Recording Studio in July of 1980, possibly in Sheffield. Aparently there are decent versions of this 4 song demo floating around out there. I remember seeing it at Bleaker Bob's Record Store in NYC's Village in 1985, but I didn't have the money to buy it at the time, but I did come across someone else's bad copy in 1995. The Homage in the demo is a bit different (sounds like Steven is singing) than it sounds in concert. In concert there seem to be more well-defined lyrics and it also sounds like both Hooky and Bernard are singing.<BR/><BR/>I wish they just release the Western Works demo - remastered - on CD. I thought it would appear in the box set on the Retro CD, but no such luck.moffetcathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11794467154549984352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14307486.post-1158348030917613702006-09-15T20:20:00.000+01:002006-09-15T20:20:00.000+01:00I just sold this CD on ebay.co.uk (user name wilki...I just sold this CD on ebay.co.uk (user name wilkiewilkie). I of course made myself a copy first.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14307486.post-1141228575660967182006-03-01T15:56:00.000+00:002006-03-01T15:56:00.000+00:00This article has been linked to by a Factory Recor...This article has been linked to by a Factory Records <A HREF="http://www.cerysmaticfactory.info/" REL="nofollow">blog</A> that I was completely unaware of. So thanks for the link... now I know you exist!robinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08743788064455642852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14307486.post-1141211901229512142006-03-01T11:18:00.000+00:002006-03-01T11:18:00.000+00:00Hi,I've been thinking a few days about your though...Hi,<BR/><BR/>I've been thinking a few days about your thoughts, who may is reading your Blog. And I've got to tell you, I'm just reading your posts about Music!!! And I really enjoy them. Ain't got no clue about programming and special progs you're talking about.<BR/><BR/>I enjoy your taste of music and often I'm thinking about these sounds of my youth! <BR/>Thank you Robin!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14307486.post-1141059461627011472006-02-27T16:57:00.000+00:002006-02-27T16:57:00.000+00:00You are correct -- thank you! So it has been on CD...You are correct -- thank you! So it has been on CD twice, once in Canada, once in Belgium. It would do well if I checked either your source or this excellent <A HREF="http://www.niagara.edu/neworder/singles/egg.html" REL="nofollow">discography</A> which dates the EP to 1990.<BR/><BR/>And thanks for disproving my hypothesis that only my techy posts get read!robinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08743788064455642852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14307486.post-1140968354814303572006-02-26T15:39:00.000+00:002006-02-26T15:39:00.000+00:00Not strictly true - it did appear on a CD single b...Not strictly true - it did appear on a CD single back in the early 90's - "Everything's Gone Green" (Belgium CD - http://www.discogs.com/release/162820) :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com